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Cognitive Dissidents Podcast: “U.S.-China Relations with David Firestein”


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January 30, 2023 

Host and Bush China Foundation Fellow Jacob Shapiro speaks with guest David Firestein, president and CEO of the Bush China Foundation about the future of U.S.-China relations, touch points in the current bilateral relationship, fundamental societal differences between the United States and China and other important topics.

In the podcast, David asserts:

“I think the biggest mistake that we often make in the United States is grafting and projecting our own strategic sentiments onto the Chinese leadership in ways that don’t fit in reality; but we can’t see that, because we’re too busy assuming that they think exactly the way we do.”

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